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his own deficit reduction commission. he knows what our proposals are, he knows what we are throwing do. what we don't know, chris, is what is the president willing to do? >> well, let me ask you specifically about that. is it true, because it's been said but we've never seen a piece of paper; it true that the president offered to raise the eligibility age for medicare and to slow cost of living adjustments for social security what you were in your debt talks in august ofs2011. >> it was on the table. did the president agree to it? it may have been close to an agreement to it. if he agreed to it we might not have some problem today. >> is that on the table now. of course, it's on the table. >> no, is it on the table from their point of view. >> well, there are a lot of items on the table. the president knows what they are. the question is what are they willing to do. >> you are starting it have some political problems because you are starting to have some split necessary your ranks. i don't have to tell you one of the top
his own deficit reduction commission. he knows what our proposals are, he knows what we are throwing do. what we don't know, chris, is what is the president willing to do? >> well, let me ask you specifically about that. is it true, because it's been said but we've never seen a piece of paper; it true that the president offered to raise the eligibility age for medicare and to slow cost of living adjustments for social security what you were in your debt talks in august ofs2011. >>...
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on social security he denied any effect on the deficit at all. durbin said earlier last week social security hasn't added a dime to the dif is it. in fact, in 2012, it adds $160 billion of debt. there is more money in trust fund of social security to take care of it for 20 more years 25, more years. that means that pieces of paper in the trust fund with the treasury says we will pay you. but it doesn't have the money. it's spent the surplus in the past. that is simply a promise, from a treasury which is bankrupt. they won't touch social security. why? political implications. republicans are bad guys and they are the good guys. we don't want to balance it on back of seniors as if you are going to reform this and killing the budget. everybody agrees that is the one area where the treasury is hemorrhaging. impacting the seniors to get out of the drug company. that is absurd. the only way to attack this is to slow down the growth of healthcare. and the one area that you could really do that tort reform where a quarter of all spending in medicine is s
on social security he denied any effect on the deficit at all. durbin said earlier last week social security hasn't added a dime to the dif is it. in fact, in 2012, it adds $160 billion of debt. there is more money in trust fund of social security to take care of it for 20 more years 25, more years. that means that pieces of paper in the trust fund with the treasury says we will pay you. but it doesn't have the money. it's spent the surplus in the past. that is simply a promise, from a treasury...
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you cannot cut your way to deficit retacks. what does reduce the deficit are somebody, job creation. we have spending cut and medicare saving and we need re-knew. >> john: four weekends until the country goes over the fiscal cliff. bring in panel. charles lane for "washington post" with us. nina easton from quot fortune" magazine and of course, sindcated columnist charles krauthammer. get to the fiscal cliff in a second. but first, the job report this morning, 7.7% unemployment because so many people left the workforce. 146,000 jobs. the question a lot of people are asking is when are we going get back to good honest job creation to grow the economy? what is it going to take? >> political will in a word. what is interesting about the jobs numbers and the economy in general is that it's not so much the fundamentals of the economy. businesses who hire people who create jobs which nancy pelosi is looking for are looking for political will out of washington. they are looking for certainty on the fiscal cliff. certainty that debt re
you cannot cut your way to deficit retacks. what does reduce the deficit are somebody, job creation. we have spending cut and medicare saving and we need re-knew. >> john: four weekends until the country goes over the fiscal cliff. bring in panel. charles lane for "washington post" with us. nina easton from quot fortune" magazine and of course, sindcated columnist charles krauthammer. get to the fiscal cliff in a second. but first, the job report this morning, 7.7%...
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. >> this isn't about getting a handle on the deficits or debt for him. it's about spending even more than he already has. >> white house aides reject republican claims that holding the debt limit over the president head is the only mechanism to get him to trim spending. >> you are going to keep the debt limit goes higher and you're spending money. you and congress. >> president signed in law, $1 trillion in spending cuts. there is a specific proposal to achieve $600 billion in savings from our entitlement programs. including our healthcare entitlement program. jay carney went so far to compare republican pressure on debt creeling to hostage taking. >> this is a profoundly bad idea that i think could not be more frightening for american businesses. and american workers. >> of course, treasury secretary geithner it go may have also frightened people yesterday. by telling cnbc the white house is prepared to go off the fiscal cliff, unless the republicans bend on taxes. comment by former democratic presidential candidate howard dean frightened republics that
. >> this isn't about getting a handle on the deficits or debt for him. it's about spending even more than he already has. >> white house aides reject republican claims that holding the debt limit over the president head is the only mechanism to get him to trim spending. >> you are going to keep the debt limit goes higher and you're spending money. you and congress. >> president signed in law, $1 trillion in spending cuts. there is a specific proposal to achieve $600...
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based on the recommendations of the president's deficit reduction commission but the president could disagree. the republicans say the plan would raise $800 million through tax reform but not by phasing out the upper income bush tax cuts and before the plan was announced, white house press secretary insisted the rates will not make it to the new year. >> he will not sign a bill that extends those tax rates for the top 2 percent. we cannot afford it. it is not wise economic policy. not wise fiscal policy. it would defeat the principle of balance that he has embraced. >> the president wrapped up an hour long twitter session promoting what he called a balanced approach, as far as deficit reduction. >>shepard: is this posturing? >>reporter: well, it is, this great measure. each side wants to blame the other. and not just if we go over the cliff, but if they do reach an agreement, each side wants the other to take the blame for the parts of the ultimate compromise their constituents don't like. right now the negotiations are nowhere, and the white house has not put a serious offer on the
based on the recommendations of the president's deficit reduction commission but the president could disagree. the republicans say the plan would raise $800 million through tax reform but not by phasing out the upper income bush tax cuts and before the plan was announced, white house press secretary insisted the rates will not make it to the new year. >> he will not sign a bill that extends those tax rates for the top 2 percent. we cannot afford it. it is not wise economic policy. not...
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we cannot cut your way to deficit reduction. what reduces the deficit are jobs. job creation. after spending cuts, and medicare saving, and next is the revenue. >>reporter: leader pelosi spent time at the white house today meeting with president obama on what we are told are a number of issues. >>shepard: thank you, mike, from washington, dc. we know that business collects information from us when we go to our website our mobile apps. usually it is legal. there is a new law that requires companies to notify you if it is taking information from you. to law is about to be put to the test. i got word in the last 30 seconds and a ruling from the supreme court, a decision from the supreme court, actually, on whether it will hear a same-sex marriage case and the constitutionality of that. the answer is "yes" the court has notified us. all energy development comes with some risk, but proven technologies allow natural gas producers to supply affordable, cleaner energy, while protecting our environment. across america, these technologies protect air - by monitoring air quality and redu
we cannot cut your way to deficit reduction. what reduces the deficit are jobs. job creation. after spending cuts, and medicare saving, and next is the revenue. >>reporter: leader pelosi spent time at the white house today meeting with president obama on what we are told are a number of issues. >>shepard: thank you, mike, from washington, dc. we know that business collects information from us when we go to our website our mobile apps. usually it is legal. there is a new law that...
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. >> the plan to reduce the deficit with bill clinton former chief of staff. those are your 5@5:30. doug luzader is life in washington with more. >> good morning, guys. we are looking for an important report coming out today. the expectation is -- first of all talking about unemployment. we know they fell. but the expectation today is that the unemployment rate will probably be unchanged which means it is stuck at about 7.9 percent. as far as the markets are concerned they are not exactly tanking but there is a lot of uncertainty. businesses and investors are unsure about what their tax burdens will be like this year. the impact that the fiscal cliff could have on the economy will go up across the board. >> as we get closer and closer to the end of the year i think the uneasiness will continue and the worry we might not see a resolution is going to effect our market. >> it has an impact or hiring as well. physical we go over the cliff the long-term benefits will in fact expire at the end of the year. as the president visited a family in virginia to talk about tax hikes on the wealth
. >> the plan to reduce the deficit with bill clinton former chief of staff. those are your 5@5:30. doug luzader is life in washington with more. >> good morning, guys. we are looking for an important report coming out today. the expectation is -- first of all talking about unemployment. we know they fell. but the expectation today is that the unemployment rate will probably be unchanged which means it is stuck at about 7.9 percent. as far as the markets are concerned they are not...
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and just to add insult, and here's the insult, he demands congress give up the power to control the deficit. that's obviously meanlt to humiliate the republicans. it's a non-starter. it's not acceptable. it's a way of saying to boehner you want to hand me your sword, you want to hand me your shirt? i want your trousers as well. the white house is not budging, and everybody's waiting, meaning the media, the administration are waiting for republicans to cave. >> look. i agree totally with you and their posture, their public posture appears that they're going that way. i'll give you a quick example. when john boehner started to answer the other day and he said well, our plan is to raise revenues on the rich, he was co opting barack obama's language and we read this week about the purging and the removal of conservatives and tea party members from their committee assignments because they didn't vote the way speaker boehner wants. that seems to me to be evidence that a surrender is coming. >> well, i'm not sure it's the appointments so much as the substance of the negotiations. i think, you know
and just to add insult, and here's the insult, he demands congress give up the power to control the deficit. that's obviously meanlt to humiliate the republicans. it's a non-starter. it's not acceptable. it's a way of saying to boehner you want to hand me your sword, you want to hand me your shirt? i want your trousers as well. the white house is not budging, and everybody's waiting, meaning the media, the administration are waiting for republicans to cave. >> look. i agree totally with...
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they think it won't lead to serious deficit reduction. the president is talking about a fairness issue. since the republicans aren't engaging on that, he is winning. >> so what about raising taxes? president obama is standing firm on his position to raise taxes on the nation's top earners. how do people feel about that? joy they like that idea. -- >> they like that idea. 52% want a caned de who agrees. and the republicans are struggling with the opposition to all tax increase position. i think the most telling number is that a majority of americans want taxes to go up on the americans and one in five think it is too much to reduce the deficit. they reduce the tax hikes not for deficit reduction, but because it is the best thing to do. >> at a time when the american public is sort of expecting the deficits to get cut, the president comes out with his offer and he wants next year $50 billion in new stimulus spending. how do voters feel about additional spending? >> they think it is nuts. only money teen% think it is a good idea to reduce sp
they think it won't lead to serious deficit reduction. the president is talking about a fairness issue. since the republicans aren't engaging on that, he is winning. >> so what about raising taxes? president obama is standing firm on his position to raise taxes on the nation's top earners. how do people feel about that? joy they like that idea. -- >> they like that idea. 52% want a caned de who agrees. and the republicans are struggling with the opposition to all tax increase...
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they have not contributed to the deficit. >>neil: show me an entitlement you would top. we are not talking about taking food away from the elderly, is there anything you would touch beyond taxing rich people? >>guest: we have to take a serious look at medicare. >>neil: your organization seems to put out, don't touch that, not now, not part of this deal. >>guest: what we saying, we can generate $950 billion of the $1.2 trillion we need over 10 years without eliminating or reducing benefits with medicare. i am also saying if we are looking for additional cuts and we need to do more everyone must be open. >>neil: but you are not open to the thing you said. you were one of the best speechers at the democratic convention but the speech ain't flying. it is implying it is on the republicans they better cough up more in taxes because we will keep feeding the beast. it is not about taming the beast but feeding the beast. >>guest: i need to say this, most of viewers watch this show now believe that all of us are involved in some kind of negotiation. that is not true. >>neil: there
they have not contributed to the deficit. >>neil: show me an entitlement you would top. we are not talking about taking food away from the elderly, is there anything you would touch beyond taxing rich people? >>guest: we have to take a serious look at medicare. >>neil: your organization seems to put out, don't touch that, not now, not part of this deal. >>guest: what we saying, we can generate $950 billion of the $1.2 trillion we need over 10 years without eliminating or...
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they were elected as a check and balance against president obama's reckless deficits and his reckless debt. they were elected to stop the explosive growth of government. the republicans were elected and sent to washington to fight for limited government, balanced budgets, and of course, greater liberty for all the american people. at this moment it seems like they are only offering a democratic light version for america. maybe they need to learn a thing or two from president obama. maybe they need to show a willingness to go over the so-called fiscal cliff. now, if the president really wants to take the country there, maybe they need to let him go there. here's the bottom line. what are we hearing from the white house? we're hearing the president will not negotiate unless taxes are raised on job creators, and we're hearing that the president now wants to seize control of the debt ceiling from congress. well, that means rather than needing the approval of the house was the senate to raise the nation's spending limit, president barack obama wants to do this all by his lonesome, a blank
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drivers of the debt and deficit. they need to ring something out of the white house on that side of the equation. >> one thing to understand, when we hear the president say rates have to go up. there is no other way to make this work. this is a purely political statement, it has nothing to do with economics. his own commission, the debt reduction commission he pinted identified $1.1 trillion of what are called the tax expenditures. meaning loopholes and deductions out there. available every year. so over a decade that is $11 trillion of available revenues without raising rates. so all you need to do is get less than one in ten of the dollars. one in ten. you've got a $1 trillion in raised revenues without raising rates. the only reason the president insists on raising rates is because he knows it will destroy the republican unity. it will cause a complete fracture of the republican majority in the house. it will hand him a congress that he can then manipulate for the next two years at least. because the republicans w
drivers of the debt and deficit. they need to ring something out of the white house on that side of the equation. >> one thing to understand, when we hear the president say rates have to go up. there is no other way to make this work. this is a purely political statement, it has nothing to do with economics. his own commission, the debt reduction commission he pinted identified $1.1 trillion of what are called the tax expenditures. meaning loopholes and deductions out there. available...
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. >> republicans frequently argue it is critical to get a handle on the nation's deficits before the u.s. becomes like greece. there a terrible economy with 26% unemployment, the highest in europe, and almost no job opportunities for young people frequently lead to riots in the streets. now here a leading democrat is suggesting cutting spending too quick -- too quickly is the real problem. >> the community is concerned about all of their as you teary too. there are many things you can do to reduce debt, but still have a a -- an aspect of the economy. >> some say europe's austerity is a drag on economic growth because it relies on taxation while failing to rein in the expansion of government. and that would seem to back up a republican theme in this fiscal cliff argument. >> if we raise taxes on the top two rates which is about a million small businesses who employ 25% of the workforce, it will cost us over 700,000 jobs and reduce economic growth and lower take home pay. that's a bad scenario. >> the lead negotiator on the republican side of the table facing mr. obama says raising tax
. >> republicans frequently argue it is critical to get a handle on the nation's deficits before the u.s. becomes like greece. there a terrible economy with 26% unemployment, the highest in europe, and almost no job opportunities for young people frequently lead to riots in the streets. now here a leading democrat is suggesting cutting spending too quick -- too quickly is the real problem. >> the community is concerned about all of their as you teary too. there are many things you...
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i've said i will work with republicans on a plan for economic growth, job creation and reducing our deficits. and they have had compromise between democrats and republicans. i understand, you know, people have a lot of different views. i'm willing to compromise a little bit. >> his proposal that he offered to boehner was literally a joke. it's $50 billion stimulus package. it raised taxes by $1.6 trillion. it did nothing to save social security and medicare. >> bret: some of the back and forth today. the president back on the campaign trail back in michigan. if the private meeting with the house speaker was a sec ses, over the weekend -- success over the weekend the public back and forth is back where it was. bring in the panel. jonha goldberg, at large editor of national review online. juan williams, columnist with the hill. and syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. we often can read things from what is said in public. but we don't know a lot what about is said in private. we do know we are a step closer to this cliff. i'm pretty sick and people are sick of calling it a cliff. what do y
i've said i will work with republicans on a plan for economic growth, job creation and reducing our deficits. and they have had compromise between democrats and republicans. i understand, you know, people have a lot of different views. i'm willing to compromise a little bit. >> his proposal that he offered to boehner was literally a joke. it's $50 billion stimulus package. it raised taxes by $1.6 trillion. it did nothing to save social security and medicare. >> bret: some of the...
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we'll have an incres in deficit and unemployment and he will more programs and he will not put them throughoutthrough without incrising the debt ceil that is not good for anyone. it really is. >> it is it a sobering forecast. and i know that you are watch carefully. >> yes, i am. but the nice thing about this, uma, in 2014. there will be 33 senate seats up and i think the republicans are going to take control of the senate after this debacle and then we'll get good economics. >> we'll see what lies ahead. look being -- looking forward to the next election. >> we appreciate your insights. >> my pleasure,. >> art laffer is the father of supply side economics . that is it a school of thought that lower taxes spurs growth. >> and an organization that speaks of the true spirit of the season. offering young sterse encouragement and love. reverend franklin graham heads up that effort and will join us live. volunteer ship mats that are giving hurricane sandy victims a lot of hope. >> we are live in staten island. two navy ships are housing volunteers of the american red cross and fema and they work and eat t
we'll have an incres in deficit and unemployment and he will more programs and he will not put them throughoutthrough without incrising the debt ceil that is not good for anyone. it really is. >> it is it a sobering forecast. and i know that you are watch carefully. >> yes, i am. but the nice thing about this, uma, in 2014. there will be 33 senate seats up and i think the republicans are going to take control of the senate after this debacle and then we'll get good economics....
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they should be talking about going over the cliff and the deficit and the debt with the president who shows no inclination, by the bay to cut anything. >> and we have also made this about grover norquist. if i hear about him one more time. this is absolutely ridiculous. >> peter king's wife better not meet grover norquist because we know what she is going to do. doug, it seems that both sides are kind of, you know, saying well, i will blame the other side, i will blame the other side. the republicans can't each get togetherlame the other side. they just think we are going to figure this thing out. >> here is the real problem. neither side is doing what was done in the mid 90's when president clinton and newt gingrich got together which is putting politics second, the country first and bargaining. all this kabuki play of a pluck relations fight is frankly insulting to the american people and destructive. >> you know why? i mean, this was a billion-dollar race. there is money on the line and now it's become so political that i don't even think we can. >> the point is we have lost that s
they should be talking about going over the cliff and the deficit and the debt with the president who shows no inclination, by the bay to cut anything. >> and we have also made this about grover norquist. if i hear about him one more time. this is absolutely ridiculous. >> peter king's wife better not meet grover norquist because we know what she is going to do. doug, it seems that both sides are kind of, you know, saying well, i will blame the other side, i will blame the other...
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not so he can lower the debt or the deficit but so he can spend to his heart's content. as a result some democrats have pushed the president to just raise the nation's debt ceiling on his own. they believe he has that executive power by invoking the 14th amendment of the constitution. but jay jay cancer carney the white house spokesman has studied that. they do not believe the president has that executive power. what that means they have got to go to congress to get the debt ceiling lifted the next couple of mons. that means the showdown is coming, shep. >> shepard: ed henry at the white house lawn. one critical republic who criticized house speaker john boehner over own party fiscal cliff honor says is he resigning. an important man, too. south carolina senator jim demint a key force behind the tea party movement. the founder of the tea party caucus in the senate and who predicted that the healthcare debate would be president obama's water loo. remember that? earlier this week he argued that speaker boehner's proposal tax hikes would destroy jobs. but senator demind say
not so he can lower the debt or the deficit but so he can spend to his heart's content. as a result some democrats have pushed the president to just raise the nation's debt ceiling on his own. they believe he has that executive power by invoking the 14th amendment of the constitution. but jay jay cancer carney the white house spokesman has studied that. they do not believe the president has that executive power. what that means they have got to go to congress to get the debt ceiling lifted the...
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reduction plan that hits the numbers that are required for us to stabilize our debt and deficits. and -- [. [no audio] kwroe. jenna: we gave it our best shot. sometimes we can't do it. the president speaking at the white house at the business roundtable about the economy. fiscal cliff certainly the issue in the short term for a lot of big businesses and certainly for a lot of american taxpayers. however, long term is another story when it comes to the economy, and entitlements, the president referring to that as well. as we continue to get that feedback you can check it out foxnews.com, in the meantime we're going to move onto other news as well. >> reporter: and so let's begin with the violence that is appearing to really spiral out of control. secretary of state hillary clinton says she fears a desperate president bashar al-assad in syria may resort to using chemical weapons on his own people. in the meantime, the united nations is hint thag there wil hinting that there will be no asylum for bashar al-assad as the syrian dictator makes it clear that he will die before leaving th
reduction plan that hits the numbers that are required for us to stabilize our debt and deficits. and -- [. [no audio] kwroe. jenna: we gave it our best shot. sometimes we can't do it. the president speaking at the white house at the business roundtable about the economy. fiscal cliff certainly the issue in the short term for a lot of big businesses and certainly for a lot of american taxpayers. however, long term is another story when it comes to the economy, and entitlements, the president...
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how do they get the deficit debate back to spending and entitlements? >> they can do that next year once taxes are off the table. these pass an extension of all bush tax cuts which republicans believe is best. >> before the end of the year. >> yes, before christmas. then pass perhaps a second piece of legislation as a fallback if the senate doesn't accept the better piece. it makes accommodations to president obama and allows a hike up to 37% for millionaires. obama has a extreme position. 4% on every family making $250,000 or more. there are a a lot of upper middle class families that don't think they're wealthy if they're paying college tuition making more than $250,000 and less than 750 or a million. there's a tax increase going into effect for those families in obamacare, 1% increase on income and a big 3% increase surcharge on investments. so republicans can say best case, no tax increase, we'll also give you a responsible modest increase so you can satisfy yourself, president obama, that we're increasing taxes on millionaires, not families making
how do they get the deficit debate back to spending and entitlements? >> they can do that next year once taxes are off the table. these pass an extension of all bush tax cuts which republicans believe is best. >> before the end of the year. >> yes, before christmas. then pass perhaps a second piece of legislation as a fallback if the senate doesn't accept the better piece. it makes accommodations to president obama and allows a hike up to 37% for millionaires. obama has a...
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it cuts $2.2 trillion from the deficit over ten years. that number also includes entitlement reforms raising the age for social security and medicare and so forth as well as $800 billion that they say they would throw into the pot in new tax revenue that would come from tax reform, from cutting tax loopholes and the like. joined now, very pleased to have with us california republican ken mccarthy, the house majority whip. congressman, welcome. good to see you this morning. >> thanks for having me. martha: so you put your number out there, you know, all kinds of response across the board this morning saying that it is, you know, equally laughable, ridiculous. there's no way that the white house is going to counter that offer. what do you think about that? >> well, i think that's sad, because think about what this president said when he campaigned. he said he wanted a balanced approach. he said he wanted 800 billion in revenue and 800 billion in revenue we provide. we also provide that balanced approach where he wanted two and a half cuts t
it cuts $2.2 trillion from the deficit over ten years. that number also includes entitlement reforms raising the age for social security and medicare and so forth as well as $800 billion that they say they would throw into the pot in new tax revenue that would come from tax reform, from cutting tax loopholes and the like. joined now, very pleased to have with us california republican ken mccarthy, the house majority whip. congressman, welcome. good to see you this morning. >> thanks for...
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deficit reduction plan how to get it back on track. they are proposing the plan that is a democrat version of the -- democrat counterpart to simpson. very smart. this offer was serious. the white house even though they put out a statement saying blah, blah, not good enough. call it a republican letter -- >> eric: this is the republican letter does not meet the test of balance. said our way or the highway from the white house. >> bob: reform ideas are interesting and should be on the table. the rest is bull. they don't cut anything out of defense. number one. number two, talk about the tax reform that will get to rich. or broaden the base of the tax base. including more people paying taxes. this is a joke on top of joke, andly give you this. entitle reform are good ideas. calling the -- >> dana: i thought bush tax cuts only help the rich. i defended that for eight years. >> eric: get greg in here. bob calls this a joke of a joke. republicans suggest $600 billion in more taxes. >> yeah. >> dana: $800 billion. >> eric: sorry. $800 billion
deficit reduction plan how to get it back on track. they are proposing the plan that is a democrat version of the -- democrat counterpart to simpson. very smart. this offer was serious. the white house even though they put out a statement saying blah, blah, not good enough. call it a republican letter -- >> eric: this is the republican letter does not meet the test of balance. said our way or the highway from the white house. >> bob: reform ideas are interesting and should be on the...
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the deficit is $1.9 trillion. megyn: mark, the point that i'm trying to get to, is there some arrogance or bias, anything inappropriate about the media being oh focused on the tax debate as opposed to where are the spending cuts? >> i don't think so. this is because there hasn't been any serious proposal for spending cuts and it's true of the republicans as well. you don't see republicans coming out saying they want to cut spending on specific things. the president put forward a plan that included a few spending cuts. now it's the republicans' turn to show what they are willing to cut spending on. megyn: before i go, the president came out with a $400 billion in proposed spending cuts from his last budget. mitch mcconnell came out with spending cuts when it comes to medicare, maybe adjusting the cost of living for social security. but they are too timid because this is an issue on which people vote and no one wants to talk about it. am i wrong? >> here is where you are slightly wrong. there is a framework. paul ry
the deficit is $1.9 trillion. megyn: mark, the point that i'm trying to get to, is there some arrogance or bias, anything inappropriate about the media being oh focused on the tax debate as opposed to where are the spending cuts? >> i don't think so. this is because there hasn't been any serious proposal for spending cuts and it's true of the republicans as well. you don't see republicans coming out saying they want to cut spending on specific things. the president put forward a plan that...
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can get from his tax rates on the rich, even if he got his buffet tax, it does nothing to solve the deficit problem. so, he knows eventually taxes are going to have to hit the middle class. a number of ways to do that, one is a vat tax, a carbon tax on energy and another is raising income rates on everyone, and if he can blame that on republicans, this might be the way to get na started. >> i'm going to have to disagree on the politics of what james says, dan. i think the president can't let that alternative minimum tax hit because the pressure from his own party and from senators up for reelection in 2014, the democrats, would be enormous. >> i kind of agree, james, i think that would be an achilles heel for the democrats, the third rail as we say, they don't want to go, i agree with you, paul, that the game here is to hang this on the republicans, and then pitch that forward, i've said this before, to those mid term elections. they want to bring the republicans down in the house and i think that's the strategy behind what's going on here. the idea that you're going to do all of these tax
can get from his tax rates on the rich, even if he got his buffet tax, it does nothing to solve the deficit problem. so, he knows eventually taxes are going to have to hit the middle class. a number of ways to do that, one is a vat tax, a carbon tax on energy and another is raising income rates on everyone, and if he can blame that on republicans, this might be the way to get na started. >> i'm going to have to disagree on the politics of what james says, dan. i think the president can't...
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most areas seeing deficits in the snow. we the snow pack the drought start to get if there and colder air coming in as well. guys? >> thank you, rick. >> for the record ainsley just said we need snow? >> colorado ski slopes we don't need it here in new york. try to avoid that. >> administration's story on benghazi. what has been rejected by publishers if it were a novel? that's what one best selling author says why brad thor you know him and you love him. you have read his books. why he thinks there is too many holes even for fiction. >> remember those chrysler workers caught drinking and going ba to work and make cars, yours cars, our cars? they just got their jobs back. [ female announcer ] beef, meet flavor boost. flavor boost, meet beef. it's swanson flavor boost. concentrated broth to add delicious flavor to your skillet dish in just one stir. mmm! [ female announcer ] cook, meet compliments. get recipes at flavorboost.com. [ female announcer ] cook, meet compliments. music: "make someone happy" music: "make someone ha
most areas seeing deficits in the snow. we the snow pack the drought start to get if there and colder air coming in as well. guys? >> thank you, rick. >> for the record ainsley just said we need snow? >> colorado ski slopes we don't need it here in new york. try to avoid that. >> administration's story on benghazi. what has been rejected by publishers if it were a novel? that's what one best selling author says why brad thor you know him and you love him. you have read...
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i think that is not just true for the affect on the deficit, but because the deficit is being monatized at this point in time through quantitative easing it can result in great h greater inflation down the road. he would have thought this is not a time to raise taxes, this is a time to cut government spending. we don't want to have a larger government deficit and this is the course that would lead to the greatest prosperity in the economy. he would not have agreed that if we go over the fiscal cliff that that would have a negative impact on the economy, he would say rather that by bringing the deficit down, by having the prospect of lower inflation in the future, that will be good for interest rates and that would be good for the economy in the coming years. jenna: what would he say to those american citizens, though, that say, listen, over the fiscal cliff, i'm afraid of that, i don't even want to entertain the possibilities of what that would look like. >> i think when it comes to issues such as the extension of unemployment benefits, social security, medicare, freidman would have arg
i think that is not just true for the affect on the deficit, but because the deficit is being monatized at this point in time through quantitative easing it can result in great h greater inflation down the road. he would have thought this is not a time to raise taxes, this is a time to cut government spending. we don't want to have a larger government deficit and this is the course that would lead to the greatest prosperity in the economy. he would not have agreed that if we go over the fiscal...
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makes it even harder, so the only way we get out of this situation, the only way we reduce our debt and deficit is through economic growth. we have to encourage individuals to raise capital. we have to encourage businesses to expand and create jobs. create new taxpayers. that's how you get new revenue. president obama wants to punish success. that's very sad. >> greta: you say that president obama wants to punish success. i'm curious to what extent you think those two percent people will in a commensurate way will reduce their charitable giving so they won't feel any sort of the pinch of the tax increase, but it will be charitable organizations. >> what's happening right now, businesses are speeding up dividends in anticipation of increased taxes. people are also speeding up charitable giving here at the end of the year. listen. americans. >> greta: next year. >> we're a generous society. >> that could be a problem. most people donate do it because they have a depth of feeling, they do it from a charitable heart. that's not going to curtail that much based on what happens to the tax code. >> gr
makes it even harder, so the only way we get out of this situation, the only way we reduce our debt and deficit is through economic growth. we have to encourage individuals to raise capital. we have to encourage businesses to expand and create jobs. create new taxpayers. that's how you get new revenue. president obama wants to punish success. that's very sad. >> greta: you say that president obama wants to punish success. i'm curious to what extent you think those two percent people will...
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we need to get serious about our deficit and debt that are burying our children's future. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it mahelp lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just he to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. martha: we have brand-new details on the deadly bus crash that happened in florida. police say the bus driver was confused and lost when he chose the wrong route coming out of miami airport. the top of the bus crumpled after the crash and killed two passengers. it had 32 jehovah's church members on board, they were heading to a conference. bill: if you wash watching "fox news sunday" john boehner described his reaction when the president presented its plan for the fiscal cliff. > >> i said you can't be serious. we have 7 weeks went election and the end of the year and three those weeks have been wasted. bill: flabbergasted, rich. wasting time. three weeks gone b
we need to get serious about our deficit and debt that are burying our children's future. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it mahelp lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just he to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. martha: we have brand-new details on the deadly bus crash that...
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we saw this in new jersey, where governor christie, and an $11 billion deficit. he had a fiscal cliff. he brought everybody in. he knew where the middle road was and -- >> he didn't fall off it. >> exactly. >> i'm joe smith. and i think that the dems want to raise taxes and the republicans want spending cuts, and as far as i'm concerned, i'd rather have the rich people pay taxes than me lose my entitlements. pat goodell can that work? >> people want at the rich to pay more because, okay, they should pay more. at the same time they don't want the economy to go in the hole. the other thing is they don't want the country to go broke, and what the republicans fail to do they fail to community indicate. they couldn't communicate themselves out of 0 wet babier bag. they don't hold barack obama accountable. you're the president and should lead on spending. this move of his give himself powers no president has had you take that to the country and say, you want him deciding he can spend whatever he wants. >> like removing the debt ceiling. >> exactly. i'm saying that's th
we saw this in new jersey, where governor christie, and an $11 billion deficit. he had a fiscal cliff. he brought everybody in. he knew where the middle road was and -- >> he didn't fall off it. >> exactly. >> i'm joe smith. and i think that the dems want to raise taxes and the republicans want spending cuts, and as far as i'm concerned, i'd rather have the rich people pay taxes than me lose my entitlements. pat goodell can that work? >> people want at the rich to pay...
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jenna: "happening now", house republicans are putting their offer on the table to cut the deficit and avoid the fiscal cliff. it calls for collecting an additional $800 billion in revenue over 10 years without raising tax rates. and that's balanced by the reduction of $800 billion in spending from federal programs. a lot of ins and outs there. we just tried to boil it down for you because in all the republican plan will cut the deficit by $1.6 trillion. so far democrats are uninspired by this. here is what democratic congressman chris van hollen of maryland had to say last night on "special report". >> the big difference, bret, between the way the president proposed to deal with medicare and the republicans, the republican plan, their definition of reform is simply to pass rising health care costs onto the backs of seniors. our view, you can modernize the medicare system to change incentives to move a system not strictly fee-for-service. jenna: congresswoman cathy mcmorris rodgers from washington state, congresswoman, is that what you're trying to do? >> we're about saving these entit
jenna: "happening now", house republicans are putting their offer on the table to cut the deficit and avoid the fiscal cliff. it calls for collecting an additional $800 billion in revenue over 10 years without raising tax rates. and that's balanced by the reduction of $800 billion in spending from federal programs. a lot of ins and outs there. we just tried to boil it down for you because in all the republican plan will cut the deficit by $1.6 trillion. so far democrats are uninspired...
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president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we would continue to see trillion-dollar deficits for as far as as the eye can see. listen. washington has got a spending problem, not a revenue problem. >> and with the debt at $16 trillion and counting, boehner says the government cannot tax its way out oof this problem, shep. >> that's the fiscal cliff. now hurricane sandy and congress came up with some relief for folks who are still suffering, mike. >> that's right. president obama has asked congress for $64 billion in federal aid for new york, new jersey, and other states hammered by super storm sandy it would provide financial assistance to homeowners, businesses and local and state governments faced with the huge chore of cleaning up and rebuilding after the late october devastating storm. most new york and new jersey officials for the most part praised the request and asked congress to take quick action. speaker boehner's office says it has the paperwork and aides are reviewing it shep? >> shepard: good news. mike, turns out the super storm didn't effect the job market as muc
president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we would continue to see trillion-dollar deficits for as far as as the eye can see. listen. washington has got a spending problem, not a revenue problem. >> and with the debt at $16 trillion and counting, boehner says the government cannot tax its way out oof this problem, shep. >> that's the fiscal cliff. now hurricane sandy and congress came up with some relief for folks who are still suffering, mike. >> that's...
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. >> deficit reduction is not the goal here. the reason to get our fiscal house in order and the reason to pass a deficit reduction package that is balanced and allows for economic growth is to put our economy on a sustainable fiscal path which again, in itself produces positive economic benefits and revenues are part of it this. the president put forth and entitlement reforms and savings gleaned from our health care entitlement programs need to be a part of it. the president has been specific about that. >> brian: he's talking about generalitiys about unnamed cuts. jay carny goes on to admit if the president's proposal went to the democratically controlled senate it would not last. 92 where is the leadership. >> brian: running 1.1 trillion. they are unable to pass a budget for the last three years and you probably think that the fiscal cliff would not address these things. >> gretchen: don't you recall that the president said he had no interest in speaking to republicans until they agree to the tax increase on the top two perce
. >> deficit reduction is not the goal here. the reason to get our fiscal house in order and the reason to pass a deficit reduction package that is balanced and allows for economic growth is to put our economy on a sustainable fiscal path which again, in itself produces positive economic benefits and revenues are part of it this. the president put forth and entitlement reforms and savings gleaned from our health care entitlement programs need to be a part of it. the president has been...
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all of this deficit reduction stuff, there isn't any. there aren't any spending cuts. >> greta: while democrats and republicans fight it out, the nation is waiting and waiting and waiting and suffering as they wait. former new york city mayor rudy guiliani joins us. good evening, mayor. >> how will this unravel? >> if you take them at their word, it sounds like the president is anxious to go over the fiscal cliff, and he leaves very little room for republicans to negotiate with him with a 1.7 trillion dollar tax increase, 50 billion more in stimulus spending, and absolutely no expenditure reductions that are going to take place right now. i mean, from the point of view of republicans, you're going to get more spending decreases if you go over the fiscal cliff than if you deal with president obama. >> greta: well, it appears to many in the city that it's politico check mate for the president. if we go over the fiscal cliff, what it means is the taxes will go up on the wealthy, the big earners. it also goes up on the middle class. i assume
all of this deficit reduction stuff, there isn't any. there aren't any spending cuts. >> greta: while democrats and republicans fight it out, the nation is waiting and waiting and waiting and suffering as they wait. former new york city mayor rudy guiliani joins us. good evening, mayor. >> how will this unravel? >> if you take them at their word, it sounds like the president is anxious to go over the fiscal cliff, and he leaves very little room for republicans to negotiate...
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the president and the deficit. if he wants to see if it works, the lesson that california could give the rest of the nation. >> mike: hi, everybody. mtv's brand new reality tv show makes jersey shore look pg and lawmakers are outraged. is it putting kids at risk? we report, you decide. >> clayton: and it was the encore of a lifetime. >> oh! >> what you don't see there, but do you here is is a soldier dad at his daughter's play with a surprise return. joining us live here on "fox & friends," hour two starts right now. ♪ >> and i admit that made me cry. >> clayton: buck wild? >> no, not buck wild, the girl. >> alisyn: and just when you think you can't get more creative, and they find a new way. it was during a school play and we'll show you how it unfolded. >> clayton: and your worst gift someone has given? and they're tweeting those and we'll read those. and the fiscal cliff, put up the countdown clock, if you would. 23 days left. >> alisyn: is that a counttown clock. >> clayton: 23 days until my birthday, decembe
the president and the deficit. if he wants to see if it works, the lesson that california could give the rest of the nation. >> mike: hi, everybody. mtv's brand new reality tv show makes jersey shore look pg and lawmakers are outraged. is it putting kids at risk? we report, you decide. >> clayton: and it was the encore of a lifetime. >> oh! >> what you don't see there, but do you here is is a soldier dad at his daughter's play with a surprise return. joining us live here...
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. >> we are not going to simply cut our way to prosperity or cut our way out of this deficit problem. we are going to need more revenues. in order to do that that start with higher rates for the folk at the top. the reasonien, the reason i say that is not to punish success or go after folk just because they are wealthy. it's a simple proposition that you can't raise enough revenue and if you don't raise enough revenue through closing loopholes abductions, it's going to be middle class families that make up the difference. bill: john boehner will speak later this hour. we'll see how he responds to that comment. if washington can't get a deep, automatic tax increases and massive spending cuts do take effect. martha: west virginia senator joe manchin, a democrat discussing the fiscal cliff, social security within medicare. he believes they must be run more efficiently. >> last year the office of budget management says $115 billion was misspent. that's a tremendous savings right there. they are both much lower than everyone says we need. all economists say we need a minimum of $4 trillion
. >> we are not going to simply cut our way to prosperity or cut our way out of this deficit problem. we are going to need more revenues. in order to do that that start with higher rates for the folk at the top. the reasonien, the reason i say that is not to punish success or go after folk just because they are wealthy. it's a simple proposition that you can't raise enough revenue and if you don't raise enough revenue through closing loopholes abductions, it's going to be middle class...
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the congressional budget office just announced that the federal budget deficit for the last two months hit $292 billion. if we were to keep spending more than we take in at that rate america would add another $1.7 trillion to the national debt by this time next year. ironically this comes just about one hour after republican house speaker john boehner held a news conference suggesting that the president has been unwilling to compromise on a deal to cut our debt and complaining about washington's, quote, spending program. >> there are a lot of things that are possible to put the revenue that the president seeks on the table, but none of it is going to be possible if the president insists on his position. insists on my way or the highway. that's not the way to get to an agreement that i think is important for the american people and very important for our economy. alisyn: the bitter partisan fight over the debt deal even came up in a surprising way at last night's national tree lighting ceremony in washington. during a rendition of santa claus is coming to town one of the musicians pause
the congressional budget office just announced that the federal budget deficit for the last two months hit $292 billion. if we were to keep spending more than we take in at that rate america would add another $1.7 trillion to the national debt by this time next year. ironically this comes just about one hour after republican house speaker john boehner held a news conference suggesting that the president has been unwilling to compromise on a deal to cut our debt and complaining about...
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when you look at the debt and deficits he run up. he run up more debt than all of the other presidents combined and maybe the republicans should let the president go ahead and sail off of the cliff and do it for the next generation. keep in mind, somebody may have to pay the bill it may be our children and our children's children. do we want to leave the country in better shape. >> gretchen: they will not have enough pennies in the piggy bank. moments ago kate middleton and prince william left the hospital. she was admitted on monday after suffering from acute morning sickness. kate was treated by the queens doctors. she is headed to kensington palace where she will rest for a extended time. the rogue nation of syria has begun mixing chemical weapons and loading them in to bombs. it is raising fears that president assad will use them on his own people. >> if he would drop the gas, it would kill 100,000 people immediately and in damascus a million people could be affected. it is very serious. >> gretchen: fox news learns that the mili
when you look at the debt and deficits he run up. he run up more debt than all of the other presidents combined and maybe the republicans should let the president go ahead and sail off of the cliff and do it for the next generation. keep in mind, somebody may have to pay the bill it may be our children and our children's children. do we want to leave the country in better shape. >> gretchen: they will not have enough pennies in the piggy bank. moments ago kate middleton and prince william...
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president proposing for tackling the real economic challenge we have here, the real driver of budget deficits, the real threat to american economics, superiority in this world, out of control-- the president of the united states, the president for four yea years, no credible plan for tackling that spending. >> dave: there's been nothing put on paper when it comes to entitlements from the president one thing he's been afraid to do. now he's been reelected don't be afraid to face the voters. tack tackle entitlement and changes to survive. >> alisyn: isn't that the beauty of the second term. incumbency you're no longer bo ho holden to anyone. >> and that 1.6 trillion dollar. before 800 billion and now it's 1.6 trillion. maybe that's the second term speaking. >> alisyn: let's talk about what's going on with the christmas tree. as you know, it's christmas season and that means that there will be incidents where the p.c. police are out in force, checking and calling your tree, a holiday tree or a christmas tree and this has. this is brewing in massachusetts because the mayor of a small town, well,
president proposing for tackling the real economic challenge we have here, the real driver of budget deficits, the real threat to american economics, superiority in this world, out of control-- the president of the united states, the president for four yea years, no credible plan for tackling that spending. >> dave: there's been nothing put on paper when it comes to entitlements from the president one thing he's been afraid to do. now he's been reelected don't be afraid to face the...
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. >> i think the overhyping of deficit, the deficit mania that is seized this town is kind of crazy. i mean i love alan simpson and erskine bowles, they're talking about inflation at a moment when people are paying us money to invest in our treasury bonds? jenna: charles payne, fox business network. he has his own list what we should worry about, charles, who is right here? >> reporter: i got to tell you the idea people are giving us money, america to our treasury bonds doesn't necessarily mean it is a vote of confidence in america. means the alternatives, traditional alternatives like europe are so much scarier but that is the path we're going down, jenna. it is disingenuous to suggest, hey, the federal reserve is printing money to buy treasury bonds somehow that means inflation is not a big deal. somehow 16 trillion in debt going north of 20 trillion in debt is not a big deal. it is a big deal. the correct answer, everyone, everyone watching this show, i don't care if you're working or not working, you will be negative impacted what is going on in washington right now. jenna: what
. >> i think the overhyping of deficit, the deficit mania that is seized this town is kind of crazy. i mean i love alan simpson and erskine bowles, they're talking about inflation at a moment when people are paying us money to invest in our treasury bonds? jenna: charles payne, fox business network. he has his own list what we should worry about, charles, who is right here? >> reporter: i got to tell you the idea people are giving us money, america to our treasury bonds doesn't...
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there is going to be more talks going into 2013 on tax reform and dealing with the deficit further. >> reporter: bob cusack thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thank you. jon: let's talk a little bit more about the pickle that house speaker john boehner is in. he's struggling to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. he's facing growing criticism from members of his own party, the speaker removing four conservative congressman from key committees, the move seen by some as a way to close ranks over a potential fiscal cliff deal with the white house. outside conservative groups are voicing their displeasure saying speaker john boehner could even lose his speakership. carl cameron joins us live in washington. so he has a lot of problems with conservatives right now, car. >> reporter: sure it's not just off the hill. some of the members on the hill. fiscal conservatives are once again whispering, in some cases outwardly and openly explaining about house speaker john boehner and his handling of the negotiations with the white house. john boehner's proposal to increase revenu
there is going to be more talks going into 2013 on tax reform and dealing with the deficit further. >> reporter: bob cusack thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thank you. jon: let's talk a little bit more about the pickle that house speaker john boehner is in. he's struggling to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. he's facing growing criticism from members of his own party, the speaker removing four conservative congressman from key committees, the move seen by...